The E-Gobrecht Volume 1, Number 1,
January 2005 This is an electronic
publication of the Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC). The LSCC is a non-profit
organization dedicated to the attributions of the Liberty Seated Coin
series. Information contained
in this email newsletter is provided by the LSCC from various sources as a
general service to the membership and others with this numismatic
interest. All disclaimers are
in effect as all the information cannot herein be fully verified for
completeness, accuracy, and/or correctness. Information, input,
comments, or suggestions for improvements to this E-Gobrecht are
actively solicited from anyone and may be sent to wb8cpy@arrl.net or by writing or
calling: Bill
Bugert Editor,
E-Gobrecht
(717)
337-0229 Features in this
issue ==> Welcome to the Inaugural issue of
the E-Gobrecht. ==> Harry Bass Jr. Pattern Seated
Dollars on display at the ANA. ==> 1861-O “Proof” Half Dollar on
display at the New Orleans Mint. ==> Brian Greer’s feedback on the FUN
bourse. ==> Major study of 1861-O half dollars
coming. ==> Randy Wiley visits the Odyssey
Group. Details ==> Welcome to the E-Gobrecht!! Thanks to the excellent suggestion
of Michael Fey at the 2004 ANA annual LSCC meeting in
==> For those of you traveling to the
ANA Headquarters in ==> According to the ==> Brian Greer, noted Liberty Seated
coin dealer, collector, author, and scholar, provides us with this
feedback on the FUN: “While
scarce dated Liberty Seated coins were in short supply at the show, just
about any date could be found for the collector willing to pay strong
retail prices. Nice
inventories by a couple of dealers assured availability. For the collector seeking a
bargain or a dealer looking for resale, the going was tough but coins
could be found with hard work.
Pricing is another question.
Many non specialists are asking well above traditional wholesale
levels assuming all seated coins are bringing a premium. These dealers usually lack
knowledge of the series and do not know which dates bring strong prices
and which do not. Pricing
truly scarce dates is difficult now. What is a 71-CC 25c worth in
fine? No one really knows
right now as auction prices are SOMETIMES off the charts, sometimes not.
I saw an 1874-CC 50C
correctly graded PCGS VF35 on the floor priced at $4950. That is above XF retail. Since the coin did not sell, the
price does not really mean anything.
At what price would it sell?” ==> Randy Wiley, noted half dollar
scholar, is currently finalizing a major study of 1861-O half dollar die
marriages. His abbreviated
study is currently planned to be published in the June 2005 issue of the
Gobrecht Journal. Randy
describes, in detail, the die marriages known for that date and the die
linkages to show what die marriages were struck by the U.S. Government,
the State of ==> In January, the Odyssey Marine
Exploration and NGC asked Randy Wiley to travel to the NGC to attribute
their recovered 1861-O half dollars. For those you who don't follow the
news, the Miscellaneous If you were fortunate, you
had the chance to meet and know Harry X. Boosel. Among other things, Harry was
known as “Mr. 1873” because of his love for all coins of that date. When asked why he chose that date,
he replied “…no other year in Have you ever done a search
on the internet for the “New Orleans Mint?” In case you haven’t, the last time
I tried it, my search yielded 125,792 hits of which many are
fascinating. There are even
interesting downloadable documents!
Try it some time with your web browser. Proof versus
Proof-like. One of the
questions we, Liberty Seated numismatists, often trouble over is whether a
coin is a proof or a proof-like business strike. The major grading service
professionals struggle with this too as I have seen and owned coins
encapsulated as proofs that were actually proof-like business
strikes. This topic actually
merits a major study and essay outside the scope of this newsletter. For those of you who may be
interested in a good starting reference, Walter Breen discusses this in
the overview of his excellent reference Encyclopedia of
Bill Bugert attended the
1885 Trade Dollar. A new Trade Dollar auction record
was set on 1866 No Motto Dollar. On January 10th, in
conjunction with the Florida United Numismatists convention in Fort
Lauderdale, the American Numismatic Rarities auctioned off the Texas
example of the 1866 No Motto dollar for $1,207,500 including 15% buyer’
fee. The anonymous winner is
touted to be a collector since childhood whose wealth is self made. Congratulations to the winner and
the seller! Thanks to Len Augsburger
for alerting me to a great biographic sketch of Christian Gobrecht. The December 1911 issue of The
Numismatist has an excellent three page summary of his early years and
major activities as an engraver, focusing on his medals. It is very interesting
reading. The June 1965 issue of
Numismatic Scrapbook Magazine has an excellent article by R. W.
Julian entitled “Philadelphia Coinage Statistics: 1853-1873 The Quarter
Dollar.” In this article, the
author lists the daily statistics of the mintages of quarter dollars
during those years. For you
quarter dollar researchers, this article may be of
interest. The January 1968 issue of
Numismatic Scrapbook Magazine has an excellent article by Raymond
R. Reinoehl entitled “the United States Trade Dollar Types and
Varieties.” Excellent photos
and a long article with detailed information are included. Check it out! Calendar Deadline*: article submission for the next
Gobrecht Journal - February
2 Deadline*: add submission for the next
Gobrecht Journal - February 11 Richmond Collection
auction of Seated coins (DLRC)
- March 7 Deadline**: reporting
your collection for the half dime census - March 15 ANA
National Money Show, ANA
Summer Seminar:
ANA
Convention:
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Submissions are due to John McCloskey. ** =
Submissions are due per instructions on the survey sheet. Information on the
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