Contemporary Counterfeits For Sale - Gerry Fortin Rare Coins

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What is a Contemporary Counterfeit?

A coin, usually from a base metal, which was cast or struck from crudely engraved dies or dies made from a host coin from legitimate United States coinage and made to pass for face value at the time of its creation. Modern counterfeits with the COPY labeling or unlabeled Chinese copy artifacts are NOT considered to be Contemporary Counterfeits.

Rarity

Contemporary counterfeits, by their nature, were typically hand made in small quantities. Therefore, they are quite rare and occasional acquired by knowledgeable collectors. The Liberty Seated Collectors Club is still researching and publishing new Seated counterfeit discoveries as they appear. There are two internet links which provide access to Contemporary Counterfeit databases. I am the administrator for both databases.

Liberty Seated Dimes: http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/cf_date/cf_date_mintmark.htm

All Liberty Seated Denominations: http://www.lsccweb.org/Contemporary_Counterfeits.htm

 

For Sale List Comments

This price list originally featured only Seated contemporary counterfeits. Recent interest by customer and consignors with these historical items across all denominations and designs allows RAC to expand its price list offering. Many of the selections in this price list are either advanced collector consignments or plate coins from the contemporary counterfeit databases at SeatedDimeVarieties.com and LSCCweb.org. These offerings are the result of years of searching by dedicated collectors with offered pieces being quite rare. Since a small number of collectors pursue contemporary counterfeits, the demand is limited resulting in pricing structure that does not reflect true availability or rarity.

For detailed information concerning Seated coinage offerings, simply click the "C-101" links (Counterfeit-101) which will provide access to the individual contemporary counterfeit web-pages within the databases at SeatedDimeVarieties.com or LSCCweb.org.

For Bust half coinage, customers are referred to Contemporary Counterfeit Capped Bust Half Dollars, 2nd Edition by Keith Davignon.

 

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Date

Grade

Price

Variety and Description

Three Cent Silvers (Trimes)
1860
VG-F
$125

Handcut Dies: Weight is 0.6 grams with normal coin die alignment but reverse rotated left 20 degrees or so. Obverse shield is misshaped and the 0 in the date has appearance of letter D. A difficult piece to grade due to rim wear but sufficient internal details on obverse and reverse. TCS 1/A.

Shield Nickels
Liberty Seated Half Dimes
Capped Bust Dimes
1825
Fair
$450

Rare Original Bust Contemporary Counterfeit: Holed at 12:00 with reverse rotated 20-25 degrees. The available contemporary counterfeit bust coinage is almost comprised entirely of half dollars. Quarters and dimes are rarely ever encountered. This piece was cast in tin or a similar soft metal, from a mold of a (most likely) genuine coin. very crude and lacking in charm but the scarcity of this piece should outweigh its obvious shortcomings

1832
VF-EF
$300

Rare Cast Bust Counterfeit: Weight is 2.2 grams with normal coin turn alignment of obverse and reverse. Appears to be cast in lead; coin is thicker than genuine piece. EF+ details with sharp obverse rim. Reverse is also well defined but appears to be oxidized with dark gray film on most of area.

Liberty Seated Dimes
1841
EF
$95

 C-102, 1841 F-107 Based Transfer Dies, Rare. A high grade example with most of the silver plating completing fully intact. Weakly struck with portions of the obverse and reverse devices being incused most likey due to poor core metal alloy and corrosion in locations not protected by the silver plating. Similiar in appearance to the 1841-O C-101 dime offered next on price list.

1841
EF
$95

C-102, 1841 F-107 Based Transfer Dies, Rotated Reverse, Rare. Low relief strike with silver plating. Bubbles in the plating can be seen throughout the obverse while the reverse plating is intact. Reverse is rotated 25 degrees left. This is a high grade example with bold scroll and Liberty.

1841-O
VG-Fine Details
$145

C-101, 1841-O F-113 Based Counterfeit with Open Bud Reverse, copper or brass alloy core with silver wash and reeded edge. A well circulated piece with normal coin turn alignment and two marks. Obverse has old bank or counting machine circular mark while obverse/reverse has a compression mark at 18 digits/STA(TES). Rare.

1841-O
G-VG
$125

New January 26! C-101, 1841-O F-113 Based Counterfeit with Open Bud Reverse, copper or brass alloy core with silver wash and reeded edge. A rare early Seated dime contemporary counterfeit. Surfaces conditions are reasonable with strong rims. There are a few horizontal lines on the lower obverse that do not detract. Fresh to market.

1861
VG-F
$65

C-101, Hand Engraved Dies: A crude example from poorly engraved dies with weight of 2.1 grams as compared to 2.7 grams for standard 90% silver coinage. A common contemporary counterfeit seated dime (which is relative to its actual rarity) and usually found in a copper or brass type metal with some occasionally seen with the silver wash remaining.

1872-CC
G
$275

C-101, 1872 F-112 Based Obverse with CC Reverse: Copper metal with reverse rotated 180 degrees (medal turn). Traces of a silver remain and most visible on reverse.

1874 WA
VF
$75

C-101, Dies match 1874 With Arrows F-111 Business Strike: Original color and quite deceiving for those not familiar with Seated dimes. Details are weak and consistent with counterfeits made from dies constructed from original mint product. Composition is mostly tin with normal coin turn die alignment and crude reeding. Only example reported to date.

1874-S WA
VF-EF
$65

C-101, Cast from Micro S 1874-S F-101 Model; Suspect the metal is lead or antimony with a fair number of obverse circular defects. Reverse is more convincing. Color is consistent with gray toning normally seen on authentic coinage of that period. Only one seen and current plate coin within the SeatedDimeVarieties.com dime counterfeit database.

1888
VG
$40

 C-101, Handcut Dies with Barber Reverse: A worn example that same considerable circulation. Obverse has a number of vertical lines in the right field. Still rare as an example of contemporary workmanship with handcut dies and brass base metal.

Barber Dimes
Liberty Seated Quarters
1842-O Small Date
F-VF
$175

C-102, Struck from Transfer Dies: Deep gun metal gray/blue patina cover this contemporary counterfeit and gives the impression of being genuine mint struck until close inspection. Normal coin turn with edge reeding that is marginal. Weight is 6.0 grams. I believe this is the C-102 variety (per LSCC website) due to the filled AR in QUAR. Close examination of the reverse image at 10:30 shows brass color where the patina has thinned. Overall an interesting piece.

1853 Arrows & Rays
Fair
$225

New January 26! C-101, Arrows with No Rays, Love Token Reverse. A near unique piece that surfaced during January 2016 and consignment to GFRC for evaluation and sale. The base metal is copper or brass with overall weight at 5.2 grams. There is no edge reeding on the piece. The only example listed in the LSCC contemporary counterfeit database is a G-VG example struck with handcut dies. The reverse has been converted into a love token with the initials "FF". Most of the reverse silver wash remains intact including the rim. The obverse has no traces of silver wash and interestingly, no evidence of a pin back or center solder joint. It is doubtful that the obverse could have worn down to a Fair 2 grade while the reverse retains most of the silver wash. A very interesting piece that will require research by the new owner.

1854 With Arrow
VG-F Details
$25

C-102, Antimony Cast Counterfeit: partial as many of these antimony counterfeits are found broken due to weak base metal and snap testing. Mold opening is directly above Liberty's head.

1855
EF
$45

C-101, Antimony Cast Counterfeit, 1st 1855 Date. Weight is 4.4 grams with some surface delaminations. Normal coin turn die alignment and poor reeding. Unable to determine the mold inlet point.

1856
VF
$150

C-101, Briggs 9-G, Misplaced Flag of 5 in Shield, Well Executed Cast Counterfeit. A potentially deceiption piece with weight of 4.9 grams and coloring close to mint strike products. Reeding is acceptable but not sharp as die struck pieces; normal coin turn die alignment. Mold inlet appears to be at 5:00 on obverse.

1861
VF
$175

C-104, Die Struck from Hand Cut Dies: Struck in a copper alloy with no traces of silver wash. Has reeded edge and normal coin turn. A desirable civil war period counterfeit and first discussed in the July 1984 Gobrecht Journal by John McCloskey. The dark "line" crossing the eagles left wing is an impurity in the alloy rather than a scratch. That impurity is also seen in the reverse shield and behind the legend.

1861
F
$200

C-104, Hand Cut Dies and Die Struck: Struck on copper alloy planchet with no evidence of a silver wash or plating. Interesting rim cud immediately below (U)NITED. Normal coin turn with slight reverse rotation right and wide edge reeding.

1875
F
$28

C-101, Antimony Cast Counterfeit, 1st 1875 Date. An obvious white metal cast counterfeit slightly under weight at 5.5 grams. Normal coin turn obverse:reverse alignment but without edge reeding. Rims are broad with no denticles; overall devices have shallow relief. Suspect the metal is antimony. This is the first 1875 counterfeit quarter reported and employed as LSCC CTF archive plate coin.

1876-CC
F-VF
$45

C-101, First Cast Counterfeit seen for 1876-CC Date. An under weight cast counterfeit at 4.5 grams. Wide rims, blob like stars and weak devices on obverse and reverse as typical characteristics of a cast counterfeit. Partial reeding with normal coin turn die alignment. Suspect the base metal is antimony. LSCC counterfeit archives plate coin.

1877
EF 40
$45

C-103, Antimony Cast Counterfeit, High Quality Counterfeit. A cast piece most likely with antimony base metal. Light weight at 4.7 grams with 23.8 mm diameter. Overall casting workmanship is high with the major devices well defined (for a casted counterfeit). Color is deceptive as a nice silver/gray with subtle green.

1878
VG
$85

C-101, Transfer Dies. Brass or copper type alloy with traces of silver wash. Normal coin turn die alignment but reverse is rotated left 45 degrees. Very scarce and more valuable than antimony based counterfeits of that period.

 

Capped Bust Half Dollars
1810
Fair
$300

O-108 Dies and Unlisted. Lightweight at 9.3 grams. No reverse die cracks. Authentication as a contemporary counterfeit to be arranged at summer Baltimore show in June 2014.

1823
EF Details
$60

Davignon 1-A, Common. Weight is 11.9 grams and appears to be German silver base metal. Note the small S in STATE(S). Rim issue.

1823
VG
$60

Davignon 1-A, Common. Weight is 12.4 grams and appears to be copper with silver wash. Note the small S in STATE(S).

1830
F
$150

Davignon 13-M?, Attractive Toning. Weight is 12.4 grams and diameter is 31.7mm. This piece would be fully choice if not for the X to the right of the eagles head. Surfaces are uniformly toned with darker gun metal gray. Rims are sharp without lettering. A Fine grade has been assigned as I believe the initial device details were limited. More thorough research is necessary to confirm the Davignon 13-M attribution as this would be a rare piece.

1833
AU
$195

New April 23! Davignon 1-A, Well Struck, Southern Maine Collection. Jumbo 5 in 50C. A well executed example with light wear and ample device details throughout obverse and reverse. Normal coin turn die alignment and lettered edge. Weight is 13.5 grams. Base material appears to be German silver. Though a common Davignon variety, this piece is of high enough grade to be part of an advanced collection.

1833
F
$95

Davignon 1-A, Jumbo 5 in 50C. Weight is even 12.7 grams. Well executed portrait with smaller stars and a high 8 in the date. German silver appears to be the base metal.

1833
VG-F
$125

Davignon 20-T, Scarce. Weight is 10.6 grams. Appears to be copper base metal with silver wash.

1833
G
$60

Davignon 6-F, Common. Weight is 9.9 grams. Appears to be German silver base metal.

1838
VF
$50

Davignon 3-C, Common. An interesting example with cracked planchet and delimination. Reverse is rotate nearly 180 degrees or medal turn die alignment. Base metal appears to be German silver. .

1838
F
$85

New April 23! Davignon 3-E, Die Struck on Brass, Southern Maine Collection. A problem free and relatively attractive example of the 1838 Davignon 3-E variety. Weight is 11.4 grams with normal coin turn die alignment. There is no reeding or lettering on the counterfeit's edge, rather a series of rough polishing lines. Fresh to market after years in the Southern Maine collection.

Liberty Seated Half Dollars
1874 With Arrows
VF-EF
$45

C-101, First 1874 With Arrows Cast Counterfeit in LSCC Database. An obvious cast counterfeit weighing in at 9 grams against normal 12.5 grams. Reeding is coarse with metal coin turn. Surfaces are rough and typical of low quality cast product. Base metal is probably antimony.

1875
VF
$45

C-102, Antimony Cast Example, LSCC Website Plate Coin. Weight of 8.6 grams with normal coin turn reverse die alignment. Obviously cast with mold inlet at the obverse 4:00 position. Listed May 1 on LSCC Counterfeit Archives after a New England area purchase.

1875-S
F-VF
$95

C-102, High Grade 1875-S C-102 Example. White metal alloy with slight gray toning. Weight of 11.6 grams and date/mintmark position exactly match the LSCC Archive C-102 listing. Edge reeding is present but weak and normal coin turn die alignment. The surfaces exhibit a number of randon metal stress fracture lines. Overall an interesting piece for an advanced collection.

1876
F
$85

Antimony Cast: Deep medium gray covering of typical antimony casted surfaces.

1877-S
VG
$75

Antimony or Lead Cast: Even light gray and typical granular surfaces for lead casting. Some scratch marks on the lower reverse probably to validate the counterfeit metal composition.

 

 

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